"Con"
An unselfish act
Can only be born of love
Mystery solved.
~Mystic Urchin~
Questions:
Does unselfish love really exist? And if so, what conditions allow it to thrive? Does it remain unselfish or does it eventually become possessive, fragile, and fearful?
I asked my friend what he meant by this Ku - just to be clear. I wasn't sure what photo to post with it to be frank. But then after this conversation - I could only come up with parental love:
ME:
Having trouble with this one. Why did you call it "con". Trying to think of the photo for this one and I'm stuck...expand a little for me - or gimme a figurative picture...
Love
URCHIN:
'Con' because it was something I spent a lot of time thinking
about...is there really such a thing as an unselfish act?
Then I realised we only do unselfish things for ppl we truly love.
Charity is bullshit most of the time - we do it mostly to make
ourselves feel better.
ME:
Ah yes - the old philosophical and psychological question in ethics
and morality: Does true altruism exist? Nietzsche had a few
interesting things to say on that one. Ever got into him?
Yes I agree with you, but in more detached intellectual moments I have ventured to say that even what we do for 'love', is an effort to have that love returned; so the act therefore is not truly selfless since it still relies on some kind of return.
Tsk.
Anyhoo - thank you baby - i think i know where to dig now.
URCHIN:
No - the love I'm talkin about isn't romantic love - I mean love like what me+u have or that I have for Syd.... I have done things for frens + my child that they don't even know I've done...and not for love to be returned.
That's true love :)
ME:
I didn't misunderstand you - I wasn't thinking of Eros at all. But usually the love you speak of, Agape, is thought among psychologists and philosophers to be quite rare, some believe it's impossible and only attributable to the gods and messiahs man has created. But then that debate gets hot when the parent/child love is brought to the picture which quite arguably is the only relationship that comes close to real Agape (selfless) love - and usually from the parent more than the child. But there are some logically sound and difficult-to-swallow debates there also.
It's all fodder really - as I do believe in self-less love for all kinds of relationships. I believe I love selflessly too and deeply - which is why I'm scared shitless of having a child! But I do hear the posit that as long as the 'ID' is present, we humans are ultimately too self involved to truly be selfless.
Your thoughts?